From: DESCHEEMAEKER Eric <Eric.Descheemaeker@ed.ac.uk>
To: Roderick Bagshaw <roderick.bagshaw@law.ox.ac.uk>
Hedley, Steve <S.Hedley@ucc.ie>
obligations@uwo.ca
Date: 26/05/2015 15:42:33 UTC
Subject: Re: Damages for invasion of privacy

Dear Roderick –

Thanks a lot. (Mental) distress might not be the best term because it is often used, as you say, in a narrower sense (as a residual category), hence liable to mislead. I’m away from my books but what Andy writes, if I have it correctly, is that ‘ultimately all non-pecuniary loss is concerned with the claimant’s distress or loss of happiness’: loss of happiness in a broad sense, going beyond distress in the sense of the specific label used by courts (which accounts for one chapter in the book alongside a number of others – I’m not denying that courts and scholars do use the label in contradistinction from other types of non-pecuniary loss, but that’s immaterial).

One difficulty with the phrase ‘non-pecuniary loss’ is, obviously, that it is defined with reference to what it is not. It also begs the question of what loss means. It is 'whatever counts as loss but is not directly valuable in money'. What I described as the bipolar model (where losses are detriments that flow from the wrong but are distinct from the wrong itself) is inextricably tied to a definition of loss as a factual detriment. A position made crystal clear by Rob: ‘Loss has been used in the sense of being factually worse off’ (T&R 78); ‘although loss is not limited to financial loss, in principle it requires proof that the claimant was factually worse off as a result of the infringement of the right’ (59). If you accept that, then I think it is easy to see why non-pecuniary loss would be loss of happiness: it has to be. If you are not concretely affected in your ‘having’ (your wallet) you can only be concretely affected in your ‘being’, which ultimately boils down to the disruption of your emotional tranquillity. You then have manifold complications brought in by the question of how this is assessed, with its string of (irrebuttable) presumptions etc., but this is all that they are: complications. 

The same point (i.e. that non-pecuniary loss is loss of happiness) is made for instance by Andrew Tettenborn when he equates ‘non-material loss’ with ‘distress, vexation, mental suffering or whatever else lawyers choose to call it’ ('What is a Loss?' in Emerging Issues in Tort Law p 445). It is also implicit in McGregor on Damages §5-003. So it's a reasonably well-established position (I can't think of anyone having positively argued for the opposite view – I mean in terms of the substance, not the labels). 

I suspect that the reason why you find it difficult to accept this is because you also want include under the label of non-pecuniary losses types of injuries which are not factual detriments at all – harms or losses often described as ‘abstract’ or ‘notional’. There are lots of candidates but loss of privacy considered in and by itself (i.e. independently of its possible consequences) is a good case in point. If your personal health details are published on line but you don’t give a damn and do not suffer in your wallet as a result, most people would deny that you have suffered any loss: you are not factually worse off. I, on the other hand, am very happy to accept you have suffered one, but that’s precisely because I hold to a broader understanding of loss as a diminution of a right, a position described by someone like Rob as ‘strained and artificial’. 

But the moment you accept that (i.e. move to this broader meaning), I think you have to renounce the bipolar model which is incompatible with it. I do not think it is meaningful to say that breach of privacy leads to loss of privacy and distress, put on the same level as two separate detriments. Breach of privacy entails a loss of privacy, which ordinarily leads to distress. These operate on two different levels. The notional loss is not another factual detriment flowing from the wrong; it is the wrong itself (or rather its flip side). It might be easier to see that with physical injuries because they are concrete. You wouldn’t say (and the law doesn’t say) that the violation of your physical integrity leads to pecuniary loss, various forms of loss of happiness [whatever the exact label] and physical injury. The physical injury is the violation of your physical integrity. You can say that x leads to y and z, but not that x leads to y, z and x. 

But all that is very complicated for at least two reasons: authorities which say different things (no one would argue they can all be reconciled) and, even more so, unstable terminology/ changes of label. For instance some people might try to avoid the above problem by saying that the breach of privacy leads to distress and loss of autonomy or distress and loss of dignity. But I think they are simply replacing one word (privacy) with a higher-level category (autonomy, dignity). They are still adding oranges and apples: the right-violation itself and its deleterious consequences. This strikes me as a mishmash of the two models. But it’s the obvious temptation when your starting point is the dominant model yet you want to go a bit further in terms of compensation. You then start bringing in items which, on closer examination, only make sense on a different analytical framework. It happens a lot. I think it's what happened in that case too. 

Best, Eric



From: Roderick Bagshaw <roderick.bagshaw@law.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:37:34 +0100
To: Eric Descheemaeker <eric.descheemaeker@ed.ac.uk>, "Hedley, Steve" <S.Hedley@ucc.ie>, "obligations@uwo.ca" <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Damages for invasion of privacy

Dear Eric,

I assume I'm missing something here ... viz, why it 'shouldn’t be too difficult to accept that these non-pecuniary losses all boil down to distress' / why loss of amenities (as a result of being physically maimed) is 'incontrovertibly a form of distress'?

(I read the page of Andy Burrows' Remedies book that you referenced ... which seems to me to express a preference for ranking non-pecuniary harms relative to each other using a scale based around 'average distress', or something similar, then allows this to be rebutted in some cases (eg unconsciousness), but not others (eg above average coping) ... but surely it's a bit bold to claim that this position is 'incontrovertible'? After all, it is presented by Burrows as an alternative to the existing law. Further, it seems to be presented only as 'preferable' to the supposed rationale of the existing law rather than as the only sensible way of thinking about what non-pecuniary loss might be.)

If we reject the position that all non-pecuniary loss is distress then there seem to be some advantages ... eg no need to mess around with fictions like 'deemed distress'/ no longer as difficult to explain why judges sometimes consider damages for 'non-pecuniary loss' and 'distress' separately.

(Of course, none of the above denies your claim that there are two models - it just asks whether the arch-dominant model really has to conceptualise 'loss' in terms of 'distress-to-the-exclusion-of-all-else' as you appear to claim?)

Best wishes
Roderick

 



On 26/05/2015 13:41, DESCHEEMAEKER Eric wrote:
Dear Steve and all,

This is more than ‘of interest’. It is a very significant, if equally difficult, judgment (and worryingly running to 94,673 words - the length of a PhD thesis! I fear the below is also pretty long…)

Before we look at damages I wonder if the most far-reaching point isn’t a totally unrelated one, i.e. the recognition that a claim for breach of privacy stands in the absence of any publication of the private facts (§109)? We could quibble over it because there was some (very limited) publication between the parties involved in the hacking but the principle seems clear. And strikes me as absolutely right: I’ve never been able to understand why the wrong would be one of wrongful disclosure of private information; surely if the wrong is the breach of C’s privacy its gist is the ‘taking’ of the private information. Its being passed on to many compounds the injury but it does not create it. I think this goes to showing that the wrong has been defined way too narrowly and courts are now exploring various avenues to circumvent the restrictions (see also Nicole Moreham’s important piece on non-informational privacy in 73 CLJ 350).

On the subject of damages, i.e. what losses or harms are being compensated, I think there are some very complex theoretical issues underpinning the judgment. What you can observe is the direct clash between two models of understanding the relationship between tort and harm (or wrong and loss) - which are not limited to privacy but find a particularly fertile ground here to compete on. The important thing, I would say, is not to mix and match them. Let me try to explain:

The arch-dominant model in English law is to contrast wrong and loss. The wrong (here the breach of privacy) is the violation of a right. Losses, on the other hand, are detriments which flow from the breach – i.e. they are consequences of, hence separate from, it. These losses, in turn, are either pecuniary – you’re out of the pocket (that’s the easy bits) – or non-pecuniary: you’re not out of pocket but still worse off in a concrete, factual way. It shouldn’t be too difficult to accept that these non-pecuniary losses all boil down to distress in a broad and untechnical sense (see e.g. Burrows’ Remedies, 3rd ed, p 31). 

Example: physical injury. Your bodily integrity has been violated, you (typically) suffer some pecuniary loss (medical expenses, loss of earnings etc) and some non-pecuniary loss (‘PSLA’ in the lingo). On that model your physical injury is transparent: it is a peg on which losses hang. It needs to be there because without it your loss is not wrongful but you don’t get compensated for it; you get compensated for the deleterious consequences. 

Applied to privacy, it gives you the privacy-breach which is your peg and distress/economic losses which are your losses. There are two complications. One is that, in breach of privacy cases, there is typically no economic loss pleaded, which puts a lot of stress on what is typically regarded as the junior partner in the pecuniary/non-pecuniary dichotomy, and forces the law to confront questions it is ordinarily adept at sweeping under the rug. The second complication is that, across tort, distress is rarely actual distress; it is generally deemed distress: how bad the claimant is supposed to feel rather than how they really feel. So deemed in fact that, as is well known, unconscious claimants can recover for loss of amenities (even though it is incontrovertibly a form of distress). This complication is best ignored here lest things become too complex. 

The other model of tort and harm, which clearly underpins Mann J’s judgment, is to conflate the wrong and the injury (something regarded as a capital crime by some leading authors but which actually makes a lot of sense). On that view the loss that you suffer in your breach of privacy case is the loss of privacy itself (§111: ‘a right has been infringed, and loss of a kind recognised by the court as wrongful has been caused’). But that is not another type of loss flowing from the breach. Loss of privacy does not flow from the breach of privacy at all: it is the breach itself looked at from a different angle. It is not a separate detriment that may or may not follow: it is necessarily there by virtue of the breach having occurred. Language inspired by Grotius [De iure 2.17.2] is useful here: the loss (damnum) is the ‘diminution’ of your right, which itself is no different than the infringement of your right hence from the wrong. The loss you’ve suffered is that you’ve been wronged; the wrong is the unjustified causation of the relevant loss. On that model the two are the flip side one of the other. 

The crucial point to understand is that these two models are alternatives. I’m not going to go into the question of which is better, although it might be worth mentioning that I agree with Mann J (contra the uber-dominant model) that this abstract notion of loss is the better one - and allows you to understand why, like here, it is possible (indeed desirable) to get substantive [not nominal], compensatory [not vindicatory] damages regardless of whether or not you are out of pocket and/or aggrieved (§115: ‘The absence of distress does not that mean that there was any the less an invasion of privacy’; §132: ‘Damages awarded to reflect the infringement are not vindicatory in the sense of Lumba. They are truly compensatory’). 

The only point I’d like to press today is that they shouldn’t be combined. On a principled level, this would be like adding oranges and apples. Practically it would mean counting the same injury twice. If you compensate the right-diminution you shouldn’t also compensate for the (non-consequential) economic loss that flows from it. Robert Stevens’ example of substitutive damages if you smash someone else’s car (T&R p. 61) applies here, even though Rob was trying to make a rather different point: if it costs £2,000 to repair the car, they can’t get £2k for the diminution of their property right and another £2k for the economic loss they've suffered: that’s the same injury from two different angles. That’s easy to see because values are objective when the loss is pecuniary. More difficult to prove with distress but the principle is exactly the same. Leaving aside the red herring of aggravated damages (compensatory for a separate injury), the distress and the right-invasion are the same injury. E.g. “total loss of taste and smell” yields damages “in the region of £28,000” (Judicial Guidelines p. 8). Is that compensation for distress/PSLA or compensation for the physical injury (infringement of your bodily integrity)? The language of courts and scholars toes and froes. The truth is that it is both at the same time, from two different perspectives. The important (and I think unchallenged) point is that there is one injury not two. 

To go back to Gulati, you can see the court caught between a rock and a hard place. It wants to give substantial compensatory damages for breach of privacy in a situation where there is no (or little) distress. This forces it to switch to what I call the ‘unipolar’ model of loss: the loss suffered becomes the wrong itself, i.e. the diminution of C's privacy (itself sometimes described as a type of loss of dignity or autonomy: these are different words to describe the same reality). So far so good. The difficulty is that, because the tension I described between two models has not been identified, the court is not sure what to do with the lingering dominant ‘bipolar’ model, according to which the wrong is transparent and what matters are its consequences: in other words the pecuniary loss (none in the instant case) and the distress. 

Throughout the judgment you can see the court oscillating between putting them on the same level [i.e. you get damages for distress and damages for loss of privacy]; and seeing them as the flipside one of the other (the correct view to my mind). This leads Mann J. to meander constantly between two positions without, it seems, realising that they are mutually exclusive:  (i) that there should be damages for distress and for loss of privacy (e.g. §111, end of 130, 143); and (ii) that it is ‘unnecessary, if not inappropriate’ (§ 130) to award damages for loss of privacy on top of damages for distress when there is in fact such distress, the suggestion being that this would be double recovery. At §134 he comes very close to recognising that the distress is the flipside of the privacy-infringement, hence one injury and one compensatory award.

The correct position, it seems to me, is that the loss is indeed the loss of privacy. Typically breach of privacy causes distress but this is irrelevant; it is a typical consequence not an analytical requirement, and the claimant should not get less if he is not distressed (or even incapable of emotions) and not get more because he is, or is in a more-than-average way - unless and until a separate harm/violation of another right can be identified (hence aggravated damages). But if we do that, we move from the ultra-dominant bipolar model to a unipolar one, and this has an enormous ripple effect on the rest of tort law – topic for another day…

Apologies for an overly long reply. As it happens I am working on this right now so was especially intrigued by that judgment and would be very interested in further discussions with list members, on- or off-list.

Eric

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From: "Hedley, Steve" <S.Hedley@ucc.ie>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:25:10 +0000
To: "obligations@uwo.ca" <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Damages for invasion of privacy

In case it is of interest:

Case Law: Gulati v MGN Ltd, A landmark decision on the quantum of privacy damage” by Hugh Tomlinson QC and Sara Mansoori

The judgment in the Mirror Phone Hacking damages case of Gulati v MGN Ltd ([2015] EWHC 1482 (Ch)) deals with a wide range of legal and factual issues.  This post deals in detail with only three: the principles on which damages for misuse of private information are assessed, whether it was appropriate to make only one award of damages per claimant and the quantum of damages in privacy cases in general.  It was Mr Justice Mann’s decision in favour of the claimants on the first two points which led to the very substantial awards of damages in this case which are summarised below …

at https://inforrm.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/case-law-gulati-v-mgn-ltd-a-landmark-decision-on-the-quantum-of-privacy-damages-hugh-tomlinson-qc-and-sara-mansoori/

 

Steve Hedley

School of Law

University College Cork

 

9thlevel.ie

private-law-theory.org

 

 



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